Education Secretary Arne Duncan announced that states will be able to bypass the No Child Left Behind law if they come up with a better plan on their own. Do Nevada educators see this as an opportunity? Are they happy with the No Child Left Behind standards? We talk with the director of the Board of Trustees for Clark County Schools Carolyn Edwards about what this means for education in southern Nevada.
Nobody in her right mind would become a teacher in the current climate in America. Carolyn Edwards displayed it here - dump all the responsibility on the teacher, even if the goals are unrealistic and there are systemic problems (such as social promotion) that make teaching enormously difficult.
She talked about a fifth grade student at first grade level seemingly without a clue that A FIRST GRADE LEVEL STUDENT SHOULD NOT BE IN A FIFTH GRADE CLASS.
C.E. really should be forced into teaching in a low-income school for a year, and tape herself so she can put it on youtube and show us all how to achieve the impossible, individually teaching every single student according to that student's needs.
So, you have that first grade reader in your fifth grade class, plus a couple more, plus a few at second grade level, a few at third, a few at fourth; and this is also true of the kids' levels in math, in writing, etc. But you, one teacher, are supposed to come up with individualized lessons with different materials for each of these groups of students.
STOP PUTTING KIDS IN CLASSES FOR WHICH THEY ARE NOT PREPARED AND THEN EXPECTING TEACHERS TO "FIX" IT. IT IS MORONIC POLICY.
arti –Aug 10, 2011 10:30:54 AM
When talking about children at the low end and the high end i believe that this gap in learbing should only be a gap in thw first couple yrs of elementary. If teachefs are classifing the child for thereearning growth and ability at a level then the foowing year the childs background should be matched up with other children alike. So by say 3 rd or 4 th grade the teachers should have a classroom. Full of children with similar skills. Slower learning students sbould not be in classrooms with faster learning students. Because that will slow.them down and then the standard for growth will not be met by the faster learni.g students. So in short the first few yrs of school is when chdren should be classified and how many classifixation there are shoild be on a school to school basis with some konf of standard. Dependong on population of each class. carson jones –Aug 10, 2011 10:12:47 AM
Sorry, make that Carolyn Edwards in the last comment.arti –Aug 10, 2011 10:01:33 AM
"There is a proficiency standard that we expect children to meet," says Carolyn Jones. Yes, they expect children to meet these standards, EVEN THOUGH THEY WON'T LET TEACHERS FAIL CHILDREN WHO DON'T MEET THEM.
Please ask Carolyn Jones why so many CCSD administrators will not allow students to be failed.
It's idiotic to keep passing non-proficient kids to the next grade, then dump on teachers when they don't pass standardized tests.
She is very insulting to and disrespectful of teachers.arti –Aug 10, 2011 10:00:54 AM
What Carolyn Edwards is talking about in a "growth model" is still dumping on teachers. It is still unrealistic to ask teachers to individually tailor instruction to each of 30 or so students at a time. It is still unrealistic to expect teachers to "grow" students to some big target when they do not show up, have low IQs, refuse to do homework, are simply lazy about school and don't care, etc.
"You can lead a horse to water..." as the saying goes. School is an opportunity, but teachers cannot FORCE kids to learn.
Teachers who repeatedly show low results compared to other teachers with the same population of students are the ones who need to be watched, not every teacher who cannot perform miracles.
The scapegoating of teachers will not end with the end of No Child Left Behind. I'd love to see Carolyn Edwards "grow" some of the students I've seen.
Real support for teachers would not mean blaming them; it would mean ending social promotion so that the fifth grader is not at first grade level in the first place, and it would mean disciplining students who are chronic behavior problems, and it would mean acknowledging reality - that some kids are brighter than others.arti –Aug 10, 2011 09:55:49 AM