SNWA General Manager Pat Mulroy will join us to talk about the water pipeline to Northern Nevada, a rising Lake Mead and if green lawns are cool again. We'll also take your questions - post them online to ask Pat Mulroy.
I'm glad that a couple of the callers questioned her about wqater runing down the streets - the effective water conservation enforcement program enacted at the start of ther drought ordinances has been cast aside and there is no longer real time response. There is often a couple of days delay meaning that the water abuse has long ended. And no one has called for an end of all grass as asserted by Mulroy.
A recent report by the highly respected Pacific Institute compared water use in southwestern cities and recognized differences among the cities, still it finds that a reasonable consumption goal for Las Vegas is 166 gal/person/day. Currently we are about 223, and SNWA in its idea of conservation set 199 as a goal - for the year 2035.
Desalinization and the augmentation of the Colorado with Mississippi flood waters should be thoroughly studied before embarking on a in-state groundwater mining project.
In the end what is truly needed is elected officials with guts and integrity who will call for setting growth limits so we can build a sustainable and livable community.
To avoid a part 3, I'll end here, but there is much more to say. Rob Mrowka –Oct 1, 2011 11:40:22 AM
Once again, Pat Mulroy gets to spin her propoganda in half-truths and outright lies. While I appreciate KNPR playing a short clip of my recent appearance for her to respond to, I really wish they would put us head to head.
An example of her lies - NV has one of the strongest water laws in the country - FALSE. Nevada groundwater law allows for pumping the annual recharge to teh aquifer, PLUS water lost to evaporation and transpiration from "non-beneficial plants", which means non-crop plants, which means native wild plants. The SNWA pumping proposal would destroy over 192,000 acres of Great Basin shrublands, 8000 acres of wetlands, over 300 springs and almost 200 miles of full-time streams. That's the kind of protection Nevada law provides for.
The idea that Las VEgas is doing effective conservation and that indoor conservation would not help our water supply is outright false. Our heralded cash for grass program saves only 26 acre feety of water as year - a nice start, but far short of what is needed. Rob Mrowka –Oct 1, 2011 11:32:47 AM
Pat Mulroy's water empires do not lack funds for advertising because of tough economic times. The skyrocketing water costs she has imposed have not kept pace with personnel costs: While water-related costs have doubled, tripled and quadrupled under her Reign (literally) and while the wages of those paying higher water costs have DECREASED 11% since 2008 her compensation and that of her army of bureaucrats has INCREASED by more than 11%--no 2% decreases or suspended benefits in the Water Kingdoms, which pay not a penny of tax and contribute ZERO to County general funds--unlike the electric company.
Also, unlike the Nev Power, she pays zero dollars for the raw product (water) and merely has to treat and transport it 20 miles. She is now using reserve funds and has borrowed more than $5 billion to do what was paid for by water rates before she arrived! She claims to know the precise pumping costs ($400 M/yr) of bringing desalted water 300 miles to Las Vegas, but can't tell us the cost of her pipeline. I estimate that water from Ely (based on her performance to date will COST $10,000 per acre foot--vs. $1300 she charges us now).
She lacks funds because of the cost of her empires.Ed Uehling –Sep 29, 2011 17:37:26 PM
Virtually EVERYTHING Pat Mulroy says about this project is false or half-truths: from the fundamental justifications of the project ("prolonged drought" and "no other solutions") to her countless off-handed comments ("Carson City depends on inter-basin transfers", "the reason we reduced our advertising budget is because of the tough economic times", etc., etc., etc.).
During the "drought" the MINIMUM river flow was 5 M acre-feet, 20 times the current consumption of Las Vegas, and the average is between 7-8 million acre feet! There is no "drought". Too much water is dumped recklessly on farmlands (5-20 ft). There are many solutions (e.g., charge for water taken out of the river, use modern irrigation techniques on the farms, bring water from the north, make deals with other users--two of her few good ideas, etc.).
Carson City (and, in fact, most cities in the world) is not sitting 20 miles from a near perfect water source. The rules of the river were drawn up when 70- 80% of the population lived on farms so the rules were designed by and for farmers. Today that percentage lives in urban areas and the rules must be revised to reflect today's reality, not yesterday's.
Ed Uehling –Sep 29, 2011 17:12:43 PM
The proposed pipeline project will provide 140,000 acre feet per year, including augmented return flows. Will that water be used only when a shortage condition exists or to support more urban sprawl? What happens when the proposed project is insufficient? Is SNWA planning to extend the project to other groundwater basins of Nevada?Craig –Sep 29, 2011 11:03:04 AM
We recently took our 15,000 gallon pool out and replaced it with grass. The reduction in our power bill was immediate because no pool pump AND the grass keeps the house cooler so we use the a/c less. Why doesn't SNWA join forces with NV Energy to have folks remove their pool?Amy –Sep 29, 2011 10:48:57 AM
Why are you sticking with an outdated 20 year old pipeline project with an unknown quantity of water available when desalination of ocean water has an unlimited quantity of water available at a much lower cost?
You could use offshore barges and trade the water produced for Colorado River water. Then add barges as needed avoiding the immense cost of your groundwater pipeline project.Delaine Spilsbury –Sep 29, 2011 08:38:48 AM